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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: Oberon on January 23, 2013, 02:56 am
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buyers often need minimal transaction experience to be sold to by vendors who may require buyer to FE
however the buyer will never get said transaction experience if they dont FE to complete the transaction....so catch 22
what to do?????
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The only advice I can give is research the hell out of your vendor and make contact with him first. Work something out if at all possible. My first purchase was with ST and I got caught up in the fiasco in september, I was one of the very few that received their product, after about 30-35 business days and I wouldn't wish the anxiety and paranoia on my worst enemy. Research is your best friend when FE'ing. Start out small as well.
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FE is fine if you are ok with the possibility of never seeing your currency or a product again.
Also there are many non drug related products on SR that can help you build stats, I as a vendor do not require FE or sell illegal products.
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nomad
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only ever FE what your willing to lose, ive been rolled a few times and i NEVER fe anymore unless im happy to lose everything, I do have 1 seller who i have had many dealings with and he has never asked me to fe but I now FE as we have a good relationship going
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As others have mentioned, always attempt to get into contact with any vendor you are attempting to buy from, most good vendors will welcome inquiries.
Start small, gain experience. Ask questions, ask for help. From vendors, on what their vendor policy is, and from forum veterans.
In the end, all transactions are between you and the vendor, and you should always do what research you can.
Check the forums for "X is a scammer!" threads, and read them.
Ask about GPG and how to use it.
Ask me! I'll answer if I'm online at the time.
Do not be afraid to ask! Don't let annoying asshats deter you. This is an anonymous marketplace, and there's only so much the mods can do to weed out bothersome people.
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As others have mentioned, always attempt to get into contact with any vendor you are attempting to buy from, most good vendors will welcome inquiries.
Start small, gain experience. Ask questions, ask for help. From vendors, on what their vendor policy is, and from forum veterans.
In the end, all transactions are between you and the vendor, and you should always do what research you can.
Check the forums for "X is a scammer!" threads, and read them.
Ask about GPG and how to use it.
Ask me! I'll answer if I'm online at the time.
Do not be afraid to ask! Don't let annoying asshats deter you. This is an anonymous marketplace, and there's only so much the mods can do to weed out bothersome people.
I like this, Question everything
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I can see why a vendor would require FE after having been scammed once or twice (happens to just about every vendor on here, I'm sure). That said, it's rare that you can't find any product elsewhere, from a vendor who doesn't require FE. Maybe you'll pay more to buy from that vendor, but it can be worth it for peace of mind.
If any part of a potential transaction sketches you out, go elsewhere. I sometimes communicate with a vendor just to get a feel for them. Some people are assholes, and that's alright, I guess. Doesn't necessarily mean they're out to scam you. But I prefer to do business with nice people.
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If you do your research you can usually find some vendors who do not require FE for the product you want.
Do it if you want, I wouldn't do it on anything large, only on personal use items that you can live without if something ever happened and you didn't receive.
Just picture the things you buy with FE as a street deal, it has more inherent risks and you can have the potential to be scammed. So don't be gambling with amounts you will cry over.
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Like others said, look for a reputable vendor, search for feedback and start off buying small amounts for the first 5-10 transactions. After 5 transactions you should try to avoid FE, if the vendor isn't trusting enough after that, don't order from them.
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I personally would only do it if the vendor was uber trusted
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Just put in my first order and FE'd. So long as it's from a highly regarded seller I don't see a problem. As a new user, I think it's best to buy small and cheap while FE'ing, before you build up enough of a reputation to buy from less-known vendors while not FE'ing.
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i used to want to FE at first, then I just go to scared to and still am.
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You CAN FE, and you probably will have to at some point if you're a new buyer.
Some vendors will give you the benefit of the doubt, but will state in their policy that no refunds.
You'll be fine to FE with a well established vendor.
Just keep buying small until your stats are up
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FE for trusted vendors only
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Sometimes you just dont have a choice. Right now I´m in a stupid situation where I had to FE and the package is not showing up...and the vendor seems to be scamming. His last 30 or more reviews are all "FE".
Kinda sucks for 120 USD.
Of course, I could get into the forums and discuss about it or at least warn others...oh wait, I cant.
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buyers often need minimal transaction experience to be sold to by vendors who may require buyer to FE
however the buyer will never get said transaction experience if they dont FE to complete the transaction....so catch 22
what to do?????
In nearly almost every circumstance I would say never FE, hard for new buyers I know who need to build stats etc but if you can stay in escrow it massively reduces your chances of being ripped off. The best advice is to research the shit out of the vendor you are considering buying from before taking the plunge as that also gives you much more security.
However in saying all that I do FE on a regular basis with one trusted stealth only vendor to get my coke from an o/s. This however is a trusted relationship on both sides so being scammed isn't a risk, it's not normally like that so as a general rule still try to use the escrow system, it's there for good reason.
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Never FE any amount that you can't afford to lose.
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Never FE any amount that you can't afford to lose.
word on that. I've gambled and haven't been burned but its just a calculated risk when you do your research
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I can see exactly how it all;-)
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I'd say avoid at all cost.
If you've thoroughly researched your vendor and it seems safe, perhaps. A lot of vendors wont sell while your count is low, especially if it's a large order!
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I think if a vendor requires FE it's a fishy situation anyway. As a new buyer you can find many vendors that will not require you to FE.
Personally, I've never finalized early. And I likely never will unless it's justified and requested by a vendor for a certain circumstance.
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I sell cannabis to new buyers and do not require FE.
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I'm a newbie to the forums, but not the site. I only FE'd once and luckily the vendor came through. I would never do it again though. There are tons of vendors who will not require you to FE
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zx
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Yep, I hope I can find some vendors to work with me without FE.
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FE is ok if you don't have the buyer stats to back yourself up and the seller has a lot of transactions and a high feedback percentage. I have done FE a few times without issues, and I've done escrow where I ended up needing to ask for a refund.
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from my exp... i was a new buyer about a year ago and when you have low stats and you try buying anything that is not domestic 9 time out of 10 big vendors will ask you to fe... its just how it is im afraid >:(
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I just received an order from Goldust in which he asked me to FE as I am a new buyer/product had to be shipped overseas. Arrived and 3 days and he(they?) made sure to inform me that any future purchases can now stay in escrow.
Basically what I am saying is, if you do your research and are comfortable with a vendor, sometimes you have to take a risk in order to build a working relationship. After all there are inherited risks for both parties.
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There are vendors who don't require FE. Start with those.
If you must FE, don't spend an amount you aren't willing to lose. Simple as that.
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I would probably never finalize early. It defeats the whole "escrow" concept and as a vendor I wouldn't require anyone to finalize early unless they had no purchases.
What I might do as vendor is create a custom listing for a new account holder (we'd need to communicate first and see what the stakes were)and do small deals with them and require them to finalize early. They would need to start out slow. This way, neither the seller or buyer can really get screwed.